Jane (Jean) Cameron Ferguson1

(1898 - 1967)
Father*Angus Ferguson1 b. 1870, d. 1958
Mother*Agnes Ross Dickson1 b. 1874, d. 1927
Jane (Jean) Cameron Ferguson was born in Dennistoun, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, on 10 July 1898.2,3
The siblings James and Jane were listed in the 1901 census at 2 Kennyhill Gardens in Dennistoun, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, with their parents, Angus Ferguson and Agnes Ross Dickson.4
The siblings Jane, John and Elizabeth were listed in the 1911 census at 38 Staffa St in Dennistoun, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, with their mother Agnes Ross Dickson.5

Jane (Jean) Cameron Ferguson, John Ferguson and Elizabeth (Betty) Ferguson left Glasgow bound for Quebec and Montreal on 25 May 1912 on board the 'Hesperian' in the company of their mother Agnes Ross Dickson.6
The siblings James, Jane, John and Elizabeth were listed in the 1916 Canadian census at 424 Anderson Ave in Winnipeg North, Manitoba, in the household of their parents, Angus Ferguson and Agnes Ross Dickson. Jean was working in sales in a retail store.7

She married Ernest Weeks Pocock in Winnipeg, Manitoba, on 15 April 1920.8
The siblings John, Elizabeth and Jane were listed in the 1921 census at 706 Garwood in Winnipeg South, Manitoba, with their parents, Angus Ferguson and Agnes Ross Dickson.9

She was widowed at age 58 on the death of her husband Ernest on 16 December 1956.10

She was the informant of Angus Ferguson's death at Vancouver General Hospital in Vancouver, British Columbia, on 4 June 1958.11

Jane died on 15 February 1967 at 2672 Oxford St in Vancouver, British Columbia, at age 68 of a myocardial infarction; her brother John was the informant.3 She was cremated on 18 February 1967.3

Family

Ernest Weeks Pocock (1877 - 1956)
ChartsThomas Fergusson (c1758-1844) descendancy

Citations

  1. [S612] GRO Scotland, birth/bapt record, District of Dennistoun, Statutory Births, GRO 644/03 1623.
  2. [S612] GRO Scotland, birth/bapt record, District of Dennistoun, Statutory Births, GRO 644/03 1623 (under surname FERGUSSON).
  3. [S1177] Vital Record - BDM Archives of British Columbia, Death Reg. No. 1967-09-002763, BC Archives Mfilm No. B13282, GSU Mfilm No. 2033858.
  4. [S430] Census - 31 Mar 1901, UK census, Scottish GRO Reg No: 644/03 058/08.
  5. [S687] Census - 2 Apr 1911, UK census, Scottish GRO 644/04 031/08.
  6. [S729] Passengers leaving UK, 1890-1960, at https://www.findmypast.co.uk
  7. [S874] Census - 1 Jun 1916, Canada census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, 1916; Census Place: Manitoba, Winnipeg North, 13; Roll T-21933; p24; Family No: 240.
  8. [S1176] Website BDM Archives of Manitoba (https://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php) "Reg. No. 1920.019136."
  9. [S1215] Census - 1 Jun 1921, Canada Federal census, Manitoba, Dist. No. 40 (Sth Winnipeg), Sub-District 36, Family 95, p9.
  10. [S1177] Vital Record - BDM Archives of British Columbia, Death Reg. No. 1956-09-013390, BC Archives Mfilm No. B13230, GSU Mfilm No. 2033146.
  11. [S1177] Vital Record - BDM Archives of British Columbia, Death Reg. No. 1958-09-006616, BC Archives Mfilm Number B13237, GSU Mfilm Number 2033178.

Jane Mason Adam Ferguson1

(1884 - 1984)
Father*James (Jimmie) Ferguson1 b. 1860, d. 1949
Mother*Mary Duncan Adam1 b. 1854, d. 1930
Jane Mason Adam Ferguson was born at 48 Whitehill St in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, on 20 March 1884.2,1
The siblings Alexander, Jane, Robert and Mary were listed in the 1891 census at 37 Wesleyan St in Camlachie, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, with their parents, James (Jimmie) Ferguson and Mary Duncan Adam.3
The siblings Alexander, Jane, Robert and Mary were listed in the 1901 census at 85 Bellgrove St in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, with their parents, James (Jimmie) Ferguson and Mary Duncan Adam. Jane was a milliner.4

She married Thomas Furrie at 15 Belgrove St in Dennistoun, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, on 2 June 1905.5,6

She left Glasgow on 17 June 1910 on board the 'Caledonia', for New York, accompanied by Mary Adam Ferguson (Maisie) and Thomas.7,8,9 She petitioned the court to become a citizen in New York in 1917.10

She was listed in the 1920 US census at 630 Valley Ave in Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York, with her husband Thomas; he was a carpenter (for wages). Their children Mary, Thomas and James were listed as living with them.10

She was listed in the 1930 US census at 630 Valley Ave in Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York, with her husband Thomas; he was a carpenter (of small houses) living in a house they owned, of $6000 value. Their children Mary, Thomas and James were listed as living with them.5

She was listed in the 1940 US census at 630 Valley Ave in Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York, with her husband Thomas; he was still a carpenter. The house was now valued at $7400, but he had a declared income of only $600 for 12 weeks work in 1940. Their children Thomas and Mary were listed as living with them.11

She was widowed on the death of her husband Thomas in 1943.12

Jane died in May 1984 in New York at age 100.13,12 She was buried in 1984 at the Mt Hope Cemetery in Hastings-on-Hudson.14
FURRIE family grave, Mt Hope Cemetery, NY
Grave - Thomas FURRIE (1881-1943), Jean (nee FERGUSON)(1884-1984), Mary (1907-1959), Thomas Jnr (1910-1969), Mt Hope Cemetery, NY

Family

Thomas Furrie (c 1881 - 1943)
Children
ChartsThomas Fergusson (c1758-1844) descendancy

Citations

  1. [S612] GRO Scotland, birth/bapt record, District of Dennistoun, Statutory Births, GRO 644/03 0569.
  2. [S247] Government Publication - US SSDI, SSN 069-52-9485 issued New York.
  3. [S178] Census - 5 Apr 1891, UK census, Scottish GRO 644/02 035/02 024.
  4. [S430] Census - 31 Mar 1901, UK census, Scottish GRO 644/03 005/03 041.
  5. [S251] Census - 1 Apr 1930, US Census, Yonkers, Westchester, New York, Roll T626-1667, Page 7A, ED 39, image 679.0.
  6. [S917] GRO Scotland, marriage record, District of Dennistoun, Statutory Marriages, GRO 644/03 0257.
  7. [S122] Passenger List - Jean M. A. Ferguson, ship Caledonia, 26 June 1910, Ship Caledonia.
  8. [S180] US Immigation Records, Ellis Island, at https://www.statueofliberty.org/
  9. [S729] Passengers leaving UK, 1890-1960, at https://www.findmypast.co.uk
  10. [S245] Census - 1 Jan 1920, US Census, Yonkers Ward 6, Westchester, New York, Roll T625-1280, Page 16A, ED 248, image 591.
  11. [S844] Census - 1 Apr 1940, US Census, Yonkers, Westchester, New York, Roll T627-2865, Page 8B, ED 68-56.
  12. [S1153] Cemetery Marker - , Mt Hope Cemetery, Westchester, NY.
  13. [S247] Government Publication - US SSDI, SSN 069-52-9485.
  14. [S1153] Cemetery Marker - , Mt Hope Cemetery, Westchester, NY, Furrie family plot.
  15. [S612] GRO Scotland, birth/bapt record, District of Camlachie, Statutory Births, GRO 644/02 0110.
  16. [S545] GRO Scotland, sighted record.

Janet Ferguson1

(1854 - )
Father*Alexander Fergusson1 b. 1822, d. 1896
Mother*Elizabeth Stewart1 b. 1831, d. 1875
Janet Ferguson was born in Barony, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, on 30 November 1854.1,2
The siblings Janet, John and James were listed in the 1861 census at Middleton Farm in Old Kilpatrick, Dunbartonshire, with their parents, Alexander Fergusson and Elizabeth Stewart.3
The siblings Janet, John, James, Duncan, Ewen, Alexander and Angus were listed in the 1871 census at 131 Arnfield St in St John, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, with their parents, Alexander Fergusson and Elizabeth Stewart.4
The siblings Janet, James, Ewen, Alexander and Angus were listed in the 1881 census at 287 Duke St in Barony, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, with their father Alexander Fergusson.5

She was named as a beneficiary of the will of Alexander Fergusson, her father, dated 25 July 1896 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire; she was to inherit an equal share of the estate along with her survivng siblings.6
ChartsThomas Fergusson (c1758-1844) descendancy

Citations

  1. [S612] GRO Scotland, birth/bapt record, Parish of Barony, OPR Births/baptisms, GRO 622/00 0027 FR4058.
  2. [S189] International Genealogical Index (IGI), IGI Batch No. C119683, Source Call film 1041480.
  3. [S340] Census - 7 Apr 1861, UK census, Scottish GRO 501/00 001/00 008.
  4. [S367] Census - 2 Apr 1871, UK census, Scottish GRO 644/02 093/00 019.
  5. [S116] Census - 3 Apr 1881, UK Census, Scottish GRO 644/03 075/00 010 FHL film 203640.
  6. [S795] Will - Alexander Fergusson, Glasgow Sheriff Court Wills SC36/51/116, Glasgow Sheriff's Court Ref. SC36/51/116.

Jean Duncan Ferguson1,2

(1910 - 1917)
Father*John (Jack) Ferguson1 b. 1878, d. 1924
Mother*Elizabeth Duncan1 b. 1881, d. 1963
Jean's birth was registered between July 1910 and September 1910 in Waterloo, Lancashire.1
She was listed in the 1911 census at 11 Hougoumont Avenue in Waterloo, Liverpool, Lancashire, in the household of her parents, John (Jack) Ferguson and Elizabeth Duncan.2

Jean's death was registered between April 1917 and June 1917 in West Derby, Lancashire.3
ChartsThomas Mudie (Moodie) (1776-?) descendancy

Citations

  1. [S190] Index - GRO and Office of National Statistics, England & Wales Civil Registration Qtrly Indexes, Birth: District of West Derby, Vol 8b, p241, 3Q1910, mother's maiden name DUNCAN.
  2. [S687] Census - 2 Apr 1911, UK census, RG14PN22310 RG78PN1318 RD455 SD1 ED11 SN47.
  3. [S190] Index - GRO and Office of National Statistics, England & Wales Civil Registration Qtrly Indexes, Death: District of West Derby, Vol 8b, p331, 2Q1917, aged 6.

Jean Helen Ferguson1,2

(1926 - 2006)
Father*James Rodger Ferguson1 b. 1895, d. 1979
Mother*Gwladys Evelyn Hughes1 b. 1896, d. 1979
Jean Helen FERGUSON
(1926- )
Jean Helen Ferguson was born in West Derby, Lancashire, on 9 September 1926.1,2,3

Gordon Rodger Ferguson and Jean Helen Ferguson left Liverpool on 13 October 1928 on board the 'Adriatic', for New York, in the company of their parents James Rodger Ferguson and Gwladys Evelyn Hughes.4
The siblings Gordon and Jean were listed in the 1930 US census at 148 Murray Ave in Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York, in the household of their parents, James Rodger Ferguson and Gwladys Evelyn Hughes.5
The siblings Gordon and Jean were listed in the 1940 US census at 538 E Main St in New Castle, Westchester Co., New York, in the household of their parents, James Rodger Ferguson and Gwladys Evelyn Hughes.6

She married William Morgan Madley in USA.1

She was widowed at age 72 on the death of her husband William on 13 August 1999.7

Jean died on 8 June 2006 in Florida at age 79.3

Family

William Morgan Madley (1923 - 1999)
ChartsThomas Fergusson (c1758-1844) descendancy

Citations

  1. [S719] Email - Marjorie (Bolton) Smith, email - Marjorie (Bolton) Smith to D Ferguson, 10 Feb 2011 onwards.
  2. [S190] Index - GRO and Office of National Statistics, England & Wales Civil Registration Qtrly Indexes, Birth: District of West Derby, Vol 8b, p1046, 4Q1926.
  3. [S247] Government Publication - US SSDI, SSN 127-18-9607, last address Clearwater, Pinellas, Florida 33756, issued in New York.
  4. [S729] Passengers leaving UK, 1890-1960, at https://www.findmypast.co.uk
  5. [S251] Census - 1 Apr 1930, US Census, Yonkers, Westchester, New York, Roll T626-1669, Page 9A, ED 83, image 743.0.
  6. [S844] Census - 1 Apr 1940, US Census, New Castle, Westchester, New York, Roll T627-2802, Page 18B, ED 60-5.
  7. [S247] Government Publication - US SSDI, SSN 115-14-6685, last address Clearwater, Pinellas, Florida 33756, issued in New York.

Jessie Ferguson1

(1871 - 1974)
Father*John Ferguson1 b. 1838, d. 1900
Mother*Margaret Moodie1 b. 1840, d. 1911
Jessie Ferguson was born in Bootle, Lancashire, on 18 July 1871.2,1
The siblings Jessie, George and John were listed in the 1881 census at 13 Kenilworth St in Bootle cum Linacre, Lancashire, with their mother Margaret Moodie.3
The siblings Jessie, George, John, Maggie and Mary were listed in the 1891 census at 15 Norma Rd, Great Crosby in Waterloo, Lancashire, with their parents, John Ferguson and Margaret Moodie.2
The siblings Jessie, John, Maggie and Mary were listed in the 1901 census at 22 Norma Rd in Crosby, Waterloo, Lancashire, with their mother Margaret Moodie.4

Jessie's marriage to William Henry Brown was registered between July 1906 and September 1906 in West Derby, Lancashire.5

She was listed in the 1911 census at 9 Ennerdale Rd in New Brighton, Liscard, Cheshire, with her husband William; he was a ship-owner. His aunt Mary Nicoll Moodie was also part of the household.6

John (Jack) Ferguson and Jessie Ferguson were appointed executors of Margaret Moodie's estate in Liverpool, Lancashire, on 21 August 1911.7

She was listed in the 1921 census at 33 Ennerdale Rd in Wallasey, Cheshire, with her husband William; he was a retired ship manager and the household included a cook and housemaid.8

Jessie died on 28 January 1974 in Aled, Denbighshire, at age 102.9,10

Her will was probated in Liverpool, Lancashire, on 24 April 1974 with her estate valued at £52458.10

Family

William Henry Brown (c 1865 - )
ChartsThomas Mudie (Moodie) (1776-?) descendancy

Citations

  1. [S190] Index - GRO and Office of National Statistics, England & Wales Civil Registration Qtrly Indexes, Birth: District of West Derby and Toxteth Park, Vol 8b, p422, 3Q1871, mother's maiden name MOODIE.
  2. [S178] Census - 5 Apr 1891, UK census, ED 4 RG12-2982 Folio 118 p51-52.
  3. [S116] Census - 3 Apr 1881, UK Census, ED 31 RG11-3692 Folio 100 p54 FHL film 1341884.
  4. [S430] Census - 31 Mar 1901, UK census, ED 16 RG13-3445 Folio 75 p41.
  5. [S190] Index - GRO and Office of National Statistics, England & Wales Civil Registration Qtrly Indexes, Marriage: District of West Derby, Vol 8b, p947, 3Q1906.
  6. [S687] Census - 2 Apr 1911, UK census, RG14PN22059 RG78PN1310A RD452 SD3 ED7 SN231.
  7. [S677] Index - England High Court of Justice, England & Wales National Probate Calendar, probate granted in Liverpool to John FERGUSON, underwriter, and Jessie BROWN (wife of William Henry BROWN).
  8. [S1259] Census - 19 Jun 1921, UK census, RG15-17298, RD 452, SD 3, ED 67, Schedule 93.
  9. [S190] Index - GRO and Office of National Statistics, England & Wales Civil Registration Qtrly Indexes, Death: District of Aled (previously part of Colwyn, but renamed in 1974), Vol 8a, p2037, Jan 1974.
  10. [S677] Index - England High Court of Justice, England & Wales National Probate Calendar, probate record 741603968C, Liverpool registry.

Jessie Ferguson1

(c 1834 - )
Father*James Ferguson1 b. 1801, d. b 1851
Mother*Janet (Jessie) Haggart1 b. c 1805, d. b 1869
Jessie Ferguson was born in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, circa 1834.1,2
The siblings William, Jessie and Robina were listed in the 1841 census in Greenock, Renfrewshire, with their parents, James Ferguson and Janet (Jessie) Haggart.1
The siblings Jessie, John, Robina and Mary were listed in the 1851 census in Gorbals, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, with their mother Janet (Jessie) Haggart.2

Citations

  1. [S117] Census - 6 Jun 1841, UK census, Scottish GRO 564/00 094/00 001.
  2. [S118] Census - 30 Mar 1851, UK census, Scottish GRO 644/02 006/02 018.

John Ferguson1

(1856 - )
Father*Alexander Fergusson1 b. 1822, d. 1896
Mother*Elizabeth Stewart1 b. 1831, d. 1875
John Ferguson was born at Middleton Farm in Old Kilpatrick, Dunbartonshire, on 9 November 1856.1,2
The siblings Janet, John and James were listed in the 1861 census at Middleton Farm in Old Kilpatrick, Dunbartonshire, with their parents, Alexander Fergusson and Elizabeth Stewart.3
The siblings Janet, John, James, Duncan, Ewen, Alexander and Angus were listed in the 1871 census at 131 Arnfield St in St John, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, with their parents, Alexander Fergusson and Elizabeth Stewart.4

He was named as a beneficiary of the will of Alexander Fergusson, his father, dated 25 July 1896 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire; he was to inherit an equal share of the estate along with his survivng siblings.5
ChartsThomas Fergusson (c1758-1844) descendancy

Citations

  1. [S612] GRO Scotland, birth/bapt record, District of Old or West Kilpatrick, Statutory Births, GRO 501/00 0181.
  2. [S189] International Genealogical Index (IGI), Entry C115011/0420, Dumbarton.
  3. [S340] Census - 7 Apr 1861, UK census, Scottish GRO 501/00 001/00 008.
  4. [S367] Census - 2 Apr 1871, UK census, Scottish GRO 644/02 093/00 019.
  5. [S795] Will - Alexander Fergusson, Glasgow Sheriff Court Wills SC36/51/116, Glasgow Sheriff's Court Ref. SC36/51/116.

John Ferguson1

(1838 - 1900)
Father*James Ferguson2 b. 1801, d. b 1851
Mother*Janet (Jessie) Haggart2 b. c 1805, d. b 1869
Capt. John FERGUSON
(1838-1900)
John Ferguson was born in Greenock, Renfrewshire, on 31 March 1838.2,3 and was baptised on 27 April 1838 in Greenock.2
The siblings Jessie, John, Robina and Mary were listed in the 1851 census in Gorbals, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, with their mother Janet (Jessie) Haggart.4

He married Margaret Moodie, daughter of George Moodie and Janet Hutton, at Free Church, 6 Eginton Terrace in Ayr, Ayrshire, on 21 September 1869. He was a 2nd Officer in the Merchant Marine.5

He joined the Cunard Steamship Co. in 1867 as a 2nd Officer and after he obtained his Captain's certificate (C13386) in Glasgow in 1872 was appointed to command in Cunard in May 1882.

During this time he served in the Balbec, Kelar, Trinidad, Aleppo, Gallia, Scythia, British Queen, Servia, Aurania and Etruria (his last command).6,7

He was listed in the 1891 census as Head of Family at 15 Norma Rd, Great Crosby in Waterloo, Lancashire, with his wife Margaret; he was a Master Mariner. Their children Jessie, George, John, Maggie and Mary were listed as living with them, as were Margaret's mother Janet Hutton and sister Mary Nicoll Moodie.8

John died on 9 August 1900 in Waterloo, Liverpool, Lancashire, at age 62.9,10

His will was probated in Liverpool, Lancashire, on 2 November 1900 with Margaret Moodie appointed executrix of effects valued at £607/1/8.9

Family

Margaret Moodie (1840 - 1911)
Children
ChartsThomas Mudie (Moodie) (1776-?) descendancy

Citations

  1. [S612] GRO Scotland, birth/bapt record, Parish of Greenock Old (or West), OPR Births/baptisms, GRO 564/03 005 FR1651.
  2. [S612] GRO Scotland, birth/bapt record, Parish of Greenock Old (or West), OPR Births/baptisms, GRO 564/03 0060 054.
  3. [S867] Email - Shirley (Mason) Doyle, email to D Ferguson, 9 Dec 2012 onwards, based on birth certificate held by her.
  4. [S118] Census - 30 Mar 1851, UK census, Scottish GRO 644/02 006/02 018.
  5. [S917] GRO Scotland, marriage record, District of Ayr, Statutory Marriages, GRO 578/00 0083.
  6. [S540] Lloyd's Captains Registers 1869-1911 (Guildhall Library), at https://www.history.ac.uk/gh/capintro.htm, MS 18567, vol. 5 1872-1873; vol. 19 1874-1879; vol. 32 1880-1887; vol. 47 1888- 1895; vol. 62 1896-1899.
  7. [S1270] Letter - Cunard to Mrs Langdon Mansfield, 19 May 1961.
  8. [S178] Census - 5 Apr 1891, UK census, ED 4 RG12-2982 Folio 118 p51-52.
  9. [S677] Index - England High Court of Justice, England & Wales National Probate Calendar, probate granted in Liverpool to Margaret FERGUSON, widow.
  10. [S867] Email - Shirley (Mason) Doyle, email to D Ferguson, 9 Dec 2012 onwards, based on death certificate held by her.
  11. [S190] Index - GRO and Office of National Statistics, England & Wales Civil Registration Qtrly Indexes, Birth: District of West Derby and Toxteth Park, Vol 8b, p422, 3Q1871, mother's maiden name MOODIE.
  12. [S190] Index - GRO and Office of National Statistics, England & Wales Civil Registration Qtrly Indexes, Birth: District of West Derby and Toxteth Park, Vol 8b, p473, 3Q1874, mother's maiden name MOODIE.
  13. [S190] Index - GRO and Office of National Statistics, England & Wales Civil Registration Qtrly Indexes, Birth: District of West Derby, Vol 8b, p470, 3Q1881, mother's maiden name MOODIE.
  14. [S190] Index - GRO and Office of National Statistics, England & Wales Civil Registration Qtrly Indexes, Birth: District of West Derby, Vol 8b, p522, 2Q1883, mother's maiden name MOODIE.

John Ferguson1

(1912 - 1998)
Father*Alexander McGregor Ferguson1 b. 1867, d. 1933
Mother*Helen Chalmers Rodger1 b. 1873, d. 1951
John FERGUSON
(1912-1998)
John Ferguson was born in West Derby, Lancashire, on 23 October 1912.1,2
The siblings Alexander, Winifred, Dorothy and John were listed in the 1921 census at 11 Bagot St in Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire, with their mother Helen Chalmers Rodger.3

John Ferguson and Dorothy Rodger Ferguson were listed in the 1939 Register at 11 Belvedere Rd in Wallasey, Cheshire, along with Helen Chalmers Rodger; he was a transport driver.4

He married Gwenda Mary Duncan in Wallasey, Cheshire, on 3 March 1941.1,5

John died on 28 March 1998 at the General Hospital in Kettering, Northamptonshire, at age 85.1

Family

Gwenda Mary Duncan (1920 - 2009)
ChartsThomas Fergusson (c1758-1844) descendancy

Citations

  1. [S719] Email - Marjorie (Bolton) Smith, email - Marjorie (Bolton) Smith to D Ferguson, 10 Feb 2011 onwards.
  2. [S1044] Census - 29 Sep 1939, UK Register, RG101/3967B/017/41, Letter Code: LDCS, Schedule 219.
  3. [S1259] Census - 19 Jun 1921, UK census, RG15-17478, RD 454, SD 4, ED 7, Schedule 152.
  4. [S1044] Census - 29 Sep 1939, UK Register, RG101/3967B/017/41, Letter Code: LDCS, Schedule 219 (although her birthdate is 5 yrs younger than reality).
  5. [S190] Index - GRO and Office of National Statistics, England & Wales Civil Registration Qtrly Indexes, Marriage: District of Wallasley, Vol 8a, p1665.